Berlina
Register Newsletter No. 52 (January 2023)
Notes
and Comment
Do I look refreshed? Been retired from my
LexisNexis job since June. Mostly been working on my and other folks’
cars and helping out at Conrad’s shop. Taken a few trips, and
volunteering at the Western Railroad Museum, working on track and catenary.
We’ll see how that goes. Super, GTV, and 911 all doing fine. Did a head gasket on a
Talbot-Lago Grand Sport (see pic below) for a friend, that
was some project, and miscellaneous Alfas and Lancias.
Friend Aaron had me put a 4.10 LS differential
in his twin-to-mine green Super, and what an improvement over the noisy 4.56
that was in it. I did the same on my car fiveish years ago, wasn’t sure at
first I liked it, seemed like I was always going too fast and/or in the wrong
gear. But having since done a lot of freeway miles, I do find I like the longer
gearing. It’s a bolt-in job. Thanks to
Gordon for the article below, in part an appreciation of a Berlina with an auto
trans, something we didn’t get in the US and which I’ve
never seen. Sounds like a stunning car.
The keeper of the Berlina Register, North American Giulia Sedan
Register, and Giulietta Sedan Register is Andrew Watry, email watry@prodigy.net. Send corrections to your information or any other
Giulia- and Berlina-related facts, rumors, tips, or needs. Always seeking articles for
the newsletter.
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By Gordon Carter
My name is Gordon, I live in
Southern Victoria, Australia. I always wanted a classic Alfa Romeo, but for a
long time I couldn't afford one. About 10 years ago I set my sights on a
Berlina 2000. I had one in the late 1970's, my first car. I sold it after
having it for two years as I lost my job and couldn't afford the payments. I
regretted selling it and vowed that one day to buy another Berlina and own it
outright from the start.
Many years passed and I began looking for another
Berlina in 2012. I had my heart set on an automatic transmission Berlina in
great condition. By 2012, Berlina 2000's in such condition were scarce. A
couple of manual transmission models came up, but I had my heart set on an
automatic. Automatic transmission Berlinas were very scarce, considering
that only about 2,200 were made, and only a few of those in the right-hand drive
form.
For years I kept looking out for one online, but only
the occasional manual came up. Well, eventually my persistence paid off. Early
in 2022 I saw one advertised in Sydney, New South ales. It was being sold by
Classic Throttle Shop, the biggest dealer of fine classic cars in Australia. It
was for sale at $75,000 Australian. The pictures looked great and I made
enquiries. I called the Alfa Romeo specialist in Sydney who serviced the
vehicle. He assured me that it was a magnificent automatic Berlina in excellent
condition. I also called the previous owner of the car in Melbourne. He had looked
after the car and maintained it meticulously. It had a new engine, transmission
rebuild, new paint job in the original color Beige Cava.
I decided to take it further, and after several phone
calls and emails with the Sydney dealer, I negotiated an offer of $70,000
(roughly $47,000 US), which was accepted. The contract was mailed fast post to
my home in Victoria. I signed it, sent it back to the dealer, and transferred
the money to the dealer. The dealer arranged for a good transport company they
use to deliver it to my home. This cost $1,200 Australian but it was worth it.
It arrived two days later without a scratch. It was beautiful.
The car
came with the original logbook, service records, complete parts manual, and old
magazines featuring Berlina 2000 road tests. The car sat in the garage for two
weeks as it was uninsured and unregistered. The first thing I did was to
arrange full insurance with a company that specializes in insuring older,
classic cars, at a cost $300 annually.
The last owner told me it had no rust; that had been taken care of during the
repaint. I contacted an Alfa Romeo specialist mechanic in my town. I told him
to go over the car thoroughly from top to bottom and fix every flaw he could
find, no matter the cost. I obtained a permit from Victoria Registration and
Licences to take the car to him unregistered. The mechanics did find a few
minor flaws, nothing major at all. They were amazed at the overall superb
condition of the car. A few parts were ordered from Italy that could not be
sourced within Australia. These took several weeks to arrive. Meanwhile, the
car was fully serviced including all fluids, spark plugs, wheel alignment, all filters, carburettor
service, camshaft timing, distributor cap and rotor, valve clearance check,
remove front and rear suspension, and check-over. Over 30 hours labor in all.
They had the car for eight weeks. Total cost was $7,000 Australian. I was happy to pay it
as it's a rare and special car. A great car was made an even better car. The
mechanic is an Alfa Romeo specialist who loved working on it. He put in several
more hours that he did not charge for just because he loved working on it. An honest man indeed. I took home a flawless Berlina. I am
glad i don't have to take the car to an Alfa specialist in Melbourne. I have
one here in my town.
Next, I joined the Victorian branch of the Australian
Alfa Romeo Club. Because the Berlina is an older car, I was able to register it
as a classic. This exempted me from paying Stamp Duty on the purchase price, saving
over $3,500. Being a club member I paid $120 registration, which permits
me 45 driving days per year. I must fill in a logbook before I drive it in
case the police stop me to check my logbook. If I am caught without the logbook
entry made I could incur a large fine. So, I take it out for an hour's drive
every two weeks. My Fiat 500 is my main runaround town car.
The Berlina drives beautifully,
the ZF automatic transmission is so smooth that I hardly feel the gear changes.
At 100 kph the engine "sings." I cannot go faster than that by law. I
have been spoilt with power steering. The Berlina doesn’t have it, so the
steering seems a bit heavy. I was considering having power steering installed.
I have been strongly advised not too as it would take away from the car's
originality and drop the value by a considerable amount. So
no power steering. I have also been advised not to use the manual choke
when starting the engine as it will foul the carburetors.
I am the fourth owner of the car as far as I can tell.
I am very proud of it. It's probably the only Berlina in my town of 250,000
people. Many people have never seen one and it is a head-turner when I am
stopped at the lights. The previous owner is an Italian immigrant. He told me
that in Italy the Berlina was considered the poor man's limousine! So
that's my Berlina story. I hope that you enjoy it!
Care
and Feeding of an Alfa Sedan
A
few thoughts here on how to treat your Alfa sedan. Mostly not
Alfa-specific.
Market
Report
1967 Giulia Super. Maroon car with blue leather interior. Strong, dialed-in low-key hotrod. Owned
serially by three racers, built up originally by a racer, suspension by Bob
Mello, best in the Bay Area.
Average 2000 engine, good trans, driveline and
diff fine. Extremely good suspension, aftermarket sway bars, revalved Koni
shocks, 6 x 15 TZ mag wheels. Paint older with a few scrapes, interior showing
age but quality work. Salvage title. $24,000 private sale,
Redwood City CA. Hands-down the
best 105 chassis I’ve ever driven. Built by a guy from Norman Racing, developed
by two different CSRG vintage racers, the chassis really works. Once housed a
Twin Spark, now an average 2000. Salvage title is a bummer, but if you’re not selling
it, who cares? Very fair, even cheap if you count the TZ wheels, which are worth
1/3 of the price. 6/22
1969 US 1750 Berlina. Maroon
car, tan interior. Familiar car that’s been around NorCal for years. Recent headliner, dash, windshield. Body and interior average,
mechanicals including 2000 Spica engine, trans, brakes, suspension completely
gone through by past owner with Jaan Hjorth of Eddins Moto maybe 15 years ago. That
owner spent more than the car was worth, and tons of time, working through it
to have a good daily driver. Didn’t worry about the cosmetics, which aren’t
bad, just tired. Steel 2000 wheels and
hubcaps. $12,500 AlfaBB, Sacramento CA. Good solid car that you could use as is or
paint it and still be in good economic shape.
Car has mostly been sitting so might need some recommissioning, though I
wouldn’t think much. Good deal by some
thousands. 6/22
1972 US 2000 Berlina.
Red car with black interior. Solid
mechanically if getting long in the tooth. Straight, not rusty but paint
is old and lacks shine. Euro nose panel so you get two sets of turn signals!
Koni shocks, Panasport wheels, rebuilt driveshaft, brakes, bearings. Head gasket
and valve job 10 years ago, rebuilt front end. Interior decent but getting
tatty. $14,500 Craigslist, Berkeley CA. Good honest daily driver Berlina. I’ve known
the car 15 years, owned it for a couple years, did most of the work. Price
maybe a touch low but seller, having just bought a Giulia Super, was motivated.
Immediately painted and relisted on LA CL and ebay for three times as much. 7/22
1977 Nuova 1300 Super. Maroon car with tan interior. Good solid
unmolested Nuova. Mechanically all there, repainted in 2019, appeared to be
solid and usable, no rust or dents showing. Still had Nuova
interior and exterior trim. $23,250 BringaTrailer, Stafford
VA. Fair deal,
even cheap if you don’t mind the Nuova styling differences. They all
drive the same! Easy to drop in a 1750 or 2000 if you’re so inclined. Smart buy. 7/22
1964 Giulia TI. Grey car with brown/tannish seats. A rare creature, an original TI that hasn’t really been modified from
stock. Alleged
to have been a vocational training vehicle in NL from new. Now restored
to stock, everything looked as-new and good other than Eibach springs giving a
slightly lower ride height. Stock 1600 with single carb, original
“Edsel” steering wheel and dash. Seemed on the button.
$30,000 BringaTrailer, Netherlands. Great
to see a TI left to be a TI, not turned into a Super-lookalike, hotrod, or race
car. Quality looked typical NL-good. Car seemed to have no real issues other than
location, if you were a US buyer. High price for a TI but I’d call this fair
for the originality and quality. 7/22
1967 Giulia Super.
White car with black interior. Restored to stock
specs. Good all over with new seals, trim, upholstery, paint. No apparent changes
to mechanical spec. Listing said “reproduction seating,” not sure if that’s all
new seats or just the covers. $42,000 Bonham’s, Monterey. Nice stock car, comprehensively done without
getting to hotrod territory. Strong price in today’s cautious
market. 8/22
“1964 Giulia TI Super.” This
was a wrecked TI Super apparently reshelled some years ago in Denmark with a
70s RHD Giulia Super tub. Full on race
car with light body parts, GTA running gear, roll cage, stripped interior, etc.
Has FIA papers.
$39,292 Bonhams, London. This car is reasonably well known online and in
the racing community so no one is pulling a fast one, trying to pass it off as
a real TI Super. Among other things, there were no RHD TI Supers built. Pretty serious race car, not much else you can
do with it. No way on earth could you
build it for this price, or even buy the parts. So if shifting with your left hand
on the race track was your bag, a steal. You’ll be answering questions forever
though about its provenance. 9/22
1964 Giulia TI.
Bluette car, grey 164 interior. A mongrel: Giulia TI shell, Super dash, 164 seats, 2000 engine with Dell’Ortos,
Bosch Spider wheels with 1750 brakes. In
the Bay Area many years, very rusty with poor paint, barely driveable. Bought
and flipped on BaT. Repainted, rockers replaced, other ills attended to; goodness
knows to what standard. $25,525 BringaTrailer, San Mateo CA.
I saw this car several times over the years, seller made baseless claims about
its power, etc. Nasty paint, rusty, weird interior. Flipper
improved it but it happened in a trice, who knows about the quality. Not a car
I’d want. Price not outrageous,
would have to see in person quality of the work. 10/22
1966 Giulia Super.
Red car with grey leather interior. Car brought to the
US in the 70s, used some time, then has languished 40+ years. Basically sound,
straight body with minimal rust, GTV engine, runs, drives, not especially well.
Interior OK, new headliner, missing dash pad. Bumpers
and other trim included but not on car. $18,000 Craigslist,
Santa Rosa CA. Car was first listed
at a very high price on CL, slowly came down over many weeks. I looked at the
car in person, drove it, but really didn’t need a project. I passed along to a few friends, one who is handy
at this kind of thing showed up, made an offer, sealed the deal, even had the
seller deliver to his driveway. Fair price for a solid car. Work will be needed to bring to
daily driver status, but for the right person a cheap way into a solid first-series
Super. Folks who wouldn’t drive to the Russian River missed out. 11/22
1971 2000 Berlina. Blue pervinca with black
interior, color change from original prugna. Fully developed car with
strong engine, suspension, GTA wheels, all the usual upgrades. Video showing it hitting 200 kph on a Dutch highway. $33,000 BringaTrailer, Netherlands. About as
strong a Berlina as has come down the pike in years. Good body, interior,
mechanicals, visuals. From a US perspective only downside was location in
Europe. Was billed as a “Lusso” which generated much discussion
whether such a thing even existed. No definitive answer. Strong car, strong but fair price. A comparable GTV would be
double, perhaps triple; the Berlina discount persists. 12/22